September 28, 2010

An Interview With a Wine Snob: The Lasting Effects of Being Picked on at the Playground

Last week I was listening to NPR (I AM A HUGE NERD) and I caught an interview on this show called "The Splendid Table" with Lynne Rossetto Kasper. She was interviewing a famous wine writer, Matt Kramer, from the Wine Spectator (guide to all snootiness, self-congratulatory writing, and wine-snobbery...oops, did I say that?). I was about to run into the gym, but M.C. Ice and I had a driveway moment and stayed in my car for 6 minutes to listen to the interview.

I'm so glad I did. It's always nice to have some validation for my blog/business name...

Matt Kramer is a smart dude. He knows a butt-load about wine and he's got great i
deas. But he MUST have been the kid that was picked on in the playground. I don't know how else you become such a pretentious, snobby, need-to-let-everyone-know-how-great-you-are guy. In this interview, Matt touched on a couple of things and, to my surprise, I agreed with everything he said. He's smart, he's an expert, I respect him for it. But the way he expressed his ideas just made my blood boil and my teeth gnash.

For example...

Matt talks about the polarization in the wine industry -- how it's divided into two camps these days. Of course, because everyone will understand these terms without explanation (NOT!), he calls these camps: "The Wines of Fear" and "The Wines of Conviction." I mean, that's great writing, no? You get it right away, right? Um, not so much. I feel like I'm listening to a political ad. He must of consulted with Obama's speech writer.

In plain English, the dude was saying

Wines of Fear
= Big Corporate Wines that Try to Appeal to Lots of People to Move Wine/Make Cash and


Wines of Conviction
= Little Producers that Love Making Wine and Hope Someone Buys It

I know we all like pithy catch-phrases, but c'mon. Isn't wine a vast, complex, and confusing enough topic? Must we layer on these meaningless, bullshit phrases rather than saying what we mean? In this instance, it's a simple enough concept. There are huge conglomerates that make kind of soul-less wine (but they also sometimes make great stuff too, BTW) and then there are little wineries that make kick-ass wine that we want to support when we can. Most of us do both, and we know the difference.

My problem is not with the idea -- it's patently true. I see it all the more clearly, especially because I worked for a monstrous winery and felt many of the wines were homogenized and tasted similar to each other because "the suits" were pandering to the common denominator in the market. My problem is the pretense and this need to label everything with 'winespeak' in over-annunciated diction that turns so many people OFF to wine. There is absolutely no
normalcy in those labels or way of speaking. It's an exercise in superiority and condescension.

Further, this guy really has been living under a rock for a long time and living the good life. He chortles (yes, chortles) at the fact that he served an $8 Spanish Cava (sparking wine, awesome!) at his "not exactly low-rent" dinner party (he had to slip that in so we know he was hob-knobbing) and that his guests adored it. Don't the rest of us know that we can get great wines for $8? That's what this blog is mainly about! Why is he laughing that he "got-away" with serving an $8 bottle? He should probably be embarrassed that it was better than the $90 bottle he served later on!

I feel bad panning on the guy -- after all, he's someone's son, someone's friend, maybe someone's husband. So I'd like to say I'm using him as kind of a symbol.
Like so many in the wine industry, he's really intelligent and makes great points, but my issue with him and people like him is that wine HAS democratized. It's not his and his "high-rent" buddies' game anymore, yet his affect, his manner, his condescension remind me of all the things that bug me about the wine industry. Everyone's a snot from time to time, but in the world of wine, there's no need to create this off-putting, snide, exclusionary way of speak and being -- Normal People don't need it and we shouldn't take it...not that I have an opinion on the matter.

Please listen to the interview and let me know what you think.

10 comments:

Sam @brokewino said...

Who the hell is he, Jonathan Edwards? The wines of conviction!

I thought he gave a fair rap on the new democratization of wine. But what's certainly obvious is that he'll never consider these wines part of his normal fare.

The only reason he served that Cava is because it was 100% Maccabeo, it's a freak show, there's no other way on earth that bottle would've snuck in otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree! This is why I read WFNP - I love the wine but hate the snobbery. Keep it up.

Anonymous said...

You're totally right. This is why we read WFNP - I live the wine but notthe snootiness. Keep it up.

Wine for Normal People said...

@Sam -- thanks for your comment and great perspective. You're right on all counts -- especially about the Cava. Why do things have to be rare to be worthwhile in the mind of the snob? Sometimes regular stuff is really great. I love me some Cava -- with the Parallada and Xarell-o (the other two blending grapes for Cava for anyone reading this who doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about!). Ridiculous behavior over fermented grapes.

@everyone else -- thanks for the awesome comments and thanks for reading!

JKey said...

Great post! I just found your blog after my wife went to wine tasting that you "hosted". She came home and said, "you would have loved the sommelier!"

Wine for Normal People said...

@Jkey -- thanks so much for checking out the blog and please thank your wife for the compliment! I try to be a little different and keep my fingers crossed that it works! It's nice to hear that for you and your wife, I'm doing right by my name : )

Hope to see you at one of my wine classes soon!

Take care,
Elizabeth

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a complete hole in the a.

Awful.

Also think his point about two wine camps is wishful thinking - mainly because of the reason he seems to admire but then disregard - market forces.

It's an economic impossibility to create ragingly high quality, low price wines that he would refer to as a wine of conviction.

The reality is that all wines cannot be created the same, because they have to cater to different market segments.

Agree - his point that all wines should be of conviction is huge snobbery paired with a heaping of pretension.

Painful to listen.

Wine for Normal People said...

Thanks for your comment and I agree -- totally painful to listen!

I do agree with your point that wines do need to cater to different markets and palates, but I'm not sure I 100% agree that it's impossible to create super high quality, low priced wines (depending on what you call low price...). There are some killer Spanish wines from Jumilla and Ribera del Duero, Chilean Cabs, and Argentinean Malbec for $10 - $15. The economics work because the labor is cheaper, the land is cheaper, EU subsidies (in Spain's case), etc.

That said, Kramer probably wouldn't allow those in the "conviction" category because the producers get their grapes from co-ops and they make more than 1,000 cases!

I still don't understand how people eat that s*&t up. Some people live by the Wine Spectator and by this guy's books. I think it's just a load of snobbery and people who like making definitive proclamations about a subjective subject...as evidenced by this clip.

I'm not sure if I find him more disturbing, or the fact that the host, whom I really like, hung on his every word!

Thanks for reading!

Marc said...

Hey Elizabeth,

You're right - there are tons of really good quality lower priced wines from SAmerica and Spain.

It's baffling, how the overhead for some Chilean and Argentinian wineries can be so low that a North American can drink a solid, enjoyable bottle of wine for $15 or less.

Amazing.

I also agree, while I enjoy these wines and think they're really good - I didn't get the impression that's what Kramer had in mind for his faberge coated wines of conviction.

I find he also just sounds like a prat.

Aye, yai, yai.

Thanks for the read. I like your writing and website.

Marc (Formerly anonymous)

Wine for Normal People said...

Marc,

1. I absolutely LOVE "Faberge coated wines" -- that is fabulous beyond comprehension.

2. I'm happy I've broken you down and made you become a real person, rather than anonymous : )

3. Please keep reading and commenting -- you have great wit and I appreciate the thought you put into your comments!

Take care!
Elizabeth